Question on Business Model

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I am a reasonably successful European entrepreneur (created and grew two companies to substantial levels of leadership) and I happen to have connections in the energy sector in France in particular and a strong personal interest for this area. I could be interested in helping you grow in Europe through my network. I believe your approach make sense to try and store energy generated by unpredictable sources of energies like solar and wind and deliver it back when most needed. However, I must say that I am still strugling with one point after reading most of your materials and the recent Business Week article featuring your company on August 10th. In this article, you are reported saying that "adding storage will yield a higher return on investment" for solar power plants. However, in the US, like in Europe, the price for solar electricity is heavily subsidized (it costs 10 to 20 cents more per Kwh to produce than "traditional" electricity) and these subsidies to my knowledge are not linked to the moment when the energy is delivered to the utilities. How can you expect to make money by adding another significant cost to be amortized on top of the already high cost of building a solar power plant if this extra cost is not taken into account in the purchase agreement with the utilities? You are also alluding to "Day ahead bid process" as a source of revenues. Because of a very high demand some days and at some hours in the day, do you expect prices per Kwh in this model to be high enough to cover the amortization of both the cost to generate solar electricity and the cost to convert that electricty to into hydrogen and the back to electricty?

I am looking forward to hearing from you.

Denis Payre

   

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Response forthcoming...

Hello Denis,

Sorry for the delay in getting a response to your excellent question.  I have asked some of the technical people in Jetstream to post a reply, however they are extremely busy these days so it might take a bit more time for you to hear back.  I will keep bugging them and hope to get an answer for you soon. :-)

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Question on business model

I do not know the details of Jtstream business model, but I guess the answer could be that they are thinking on making profit on the Hydrogen sales, besides of the energy sales, for other uses, or even for hydrogen car recharge.

Also could be to accelerate investment amortization by selling a derivative product that could be obtained in their manufacturing process ( medical oxygen sales),but that requires additional ivestment and operation costs.

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Hi Henry!

I was one of the walkers passing through your Santa Fe territory today (Thursday, Nov 5th) and was very taken by your passion and ‘renaissance’ way of thinking about solutions for the modern world.  I am currently only just a behaviorist (i.e. licensure as a profesional therapist) working as an administrator of federal behavioral health funds. 

How does this relate to your work?  I am not completely certain yet of the connection, yet I feel as though the harmonic/audio work you are currently involved in has a systemic (i.e. physical health, mental health,substance abuse health) provider appeal to it.  I need a few days to process what I heard from you today to compare with what I know of our behavioral health systemic work being done.  I am a bit slow at processing and extrapolating…apologies.

Anyway, I wanted to give you kudos for your forward-thinking experiment with audio-vibrational technology and would like to ask if it is okay to occasionally stop by your facilty in Santa Fe to check out what you are up to.  I am not a scientist, and my intentions are good, as I suspect you knew when you were talking so candidly with us today.  It is just a delight to chat with someone with big ideas and thoughts.

Be well, good luck, and hopefully I will run into you soon,

Karan Northfield